Shelby Hartman and Madison Margolin are changing the narrative around psychedelic drugs with their print magazine ‘Double Blind’ that covers stories about psychedelics from around the globe. Before the magazine – the two worked with notable publications including Rolling Stone, HERB, Vice Media, High Times, and LA Weekly.
Connecting with psychedelics from a young age – both Shelby and Madison are focused on a mission to educate people about the potential of psychedelic experiences – and to assist them with their own healing and personal growth.
They join Ronan to discuss how psychedelics create a positive ripple effect on society when they heal the individual. Then, Madison shares how her first trip was the most impactful – and Shelby says psychedelics showed her what it means to be human. Psychedelics can heal, but they are not a magic bullet; that’s why it’s important for us to be candid about our experiences.
The origin story of ‘Double Blind’ and the role of science in our approach. (3:30)
Psychedelics are not about just healing the individual – they help the community and society at large – creating a ripple effect of globally conscious citizens. (7:03)
Madison’s first trip was one of her most impactful – and she took inspiration from seeing the book cover ‘Be Here Now” by Ram Dass. Psychedelics can be used as an inspiration for daily sober living. (10:10)
Integration is the real work – and psychedelics help you reintegrate as a whole. (12:40)
For Shelby, her first time on ayahuasca was one of the most profound experiences. It shaped her outlook on the world – and provided clarity on her understanding of what it meant to be human. (13:50)
Afterwards, she felt much peace. But on the second night, Shelby spent her trip resisting what was happening. Some of the best advice she relied on: “if you’re melting – melt” and “the only way out – is through”. For Shelby, seeing a psychedelic integration therapist after the experience would have been helpful. (17:00)
Shelby and Madison are passionate about the potential of psychedelics to heal – but not a magic bullet and not for everyone. That’s why it’s important we are candid about our experiences. (19:00)
Why the mainstream needs to become more psychedelic. (25:00)
‘Double Blind’ and ‘Field Trip Psychedelics’ are both organizations who are deeply passionate about the therapeutic potential of psychedelic and we are working towards a world where people who can heal from them in a safe and compassionate context. (26:30)
Shelby would love to see her Dad take a trip one day – and since COVID hit – she thinks he is finally coming around. (32:40)
Psychedelics aren’t just about healing one person. Once one person starts on a path to healing, they start everyone around them on a path to healing. Psychedelics can help you to re-integrate yourself as a whole. (35:10)